South of Gilman St.
Welcome to South of Gilman St., an mp3 streaming/internet radio site dedicated to the music that put the Bay Area punk scene and the Gilman St. Project on the map. Click on the Listen link to tune-in (this may require some tweaking in your browser) or point your favorite mp3 player at http://gilman.duckpond.net:8000 and start enjoying.
And while you're listening, explore the database to find out more about the bands, albums, and songs you're listening to and even make requests. Don't forget to rate stuff you like (or dislike)!. The console is a little window that will keep you up on what's currently playing while you're exploring other parts of the site. There's even a forum where you can chat about stuff and an image gallery of flyers and album art. You can also spy on who else is visiting the site.
Want to know more about the site? Here's some info. Curious about what the Bay Area scene is like? The liner notes from the seminal Turn It Around 2x7" really captures what Gilman St. is about. For a more recent perspective, check out an interview with band-member and punk insider Jesse Luscious.
2009-03-03 - The First 10 Years
My mind can't fathom this, but today marks the 10th anniversary of this radio stream...
Where were you 10 years ago? I remember the origins of this idea pretty well, all things considered. I was playing around with this exciting new "Shoutcast" thing and tossed up a 100 songs or so. Back then, on my PowerComputer Macintosh system, it used to take about 30 minutes to encode a short punk song into mp3 format so it was slow going. I'd bring those into work (probably on a Zip disk!) and load them on to a WindowsNT4 test box we had, and that's what ran the stream for that first year.
I remember I couldn't even listen to my own stream at home because there were no Mac mp3 players that could stream music for the longest time. But while at work, I'd listen from my Linux workstation using xmms.
The web site came a short while later, first some static stuff for me to throw up news and planned "shows" where I would actively set a playlist, then later, as a place where I learned PHP and PostgreSQL, skills that have become a huge part of my career and now pay my bills.
There was one redesign of the site, back in a period of unemployment in 2002, but since then, very little has changed with this site, even as the world and the Internet has progressed at light speed. I've started redesigns a couple of times, but never followed them through to completion. Still, this site represents a lot to me: not just for the music, but as the soundtrack to my personal history, as a trail through my music tastes over time, as a log of my technical development, and, at the risk of sounding overly maudlin: a mirror of who I am.
Thanks for listening.
2008-10-27 - Has it really been 6 years?
If you've been following this site for more than a little while, you might know that Dillinger Four ranks as one of my favoritest bands, just behind Crimpshrine. Their last album, Situationist Comedy was just brilliant and I remember thinking that I couldn't wait until the next one.
This one took a little while - you can read the sordid details on wikipedia - but finally, after 6 years, they released Civil War this month on FatWreck. Needless to say, my hopes and expectations were sky high, probably unfairly, and on the first couple of listens, I admit to a little bit of disappointment. It sounds a little more polished (and I don't mean that in a particularly good way) and a little more pop - these tend to mark the death knell for me. But, after a few listens, I have to say it's really starting to grow on me. It's still Dillinger Four after all!
2008-09-30 - Johnny Foreigner
It's been forever since I've added anything new here, but recently, a band crossed my radar that's really blown me away. It's not in the Gilman vein, so if you're not interested in more recent music, then you can stop reading now.
The band is Johnny Foreigner and they released a bunch of demos and such collectively called I Like You Mostly Late At Never and then followed up with their first studio release earlier this year, Waited Up 'Til It Was Light. Very hook-oriented, very driven, and the boy/girl vocals harken to the kind of dynamic Pretty Girls Make Graves had but in a more raw musical context. I love it- give it a listen!
They even have a video for Salt, Pepa, and Spinderella:
2008-08-20 - Inside 924
I feel lax for only now finding this, but recently, Jessiahbell posted up a great set of images from inside Gilman. Check it out, a rare treat for those who haven't been in awhile (or ever), and that's probably 99% of you all.
Thanks so much for the post Jessiahbell!
2008-05-19 - Crimpshrine Live!

If you've been following this discussion, you may have been waiting for some news on that front. I'm pleased to announce that I finally finished up digitizing the VHS recording of Crimpshrine, live in concert!
Much much thanks goes to Shelly for providing this rare treat of a recording - what a awesome addition to the content available here!
The video runs about 44 minutes and appears to be a splice of two separate gigs (some songs are repeated - the break occurs about midway). The quality is pretty awful, as you'd expect from a low budget recording that is 20 years old - but it's Crimpshrine! I've recorded to 320x240 Quicktime (mpeg4) and it clocks in at 218MB, so be prepared for a long download.
Right-click download this link
Here is the set list(s):
(break)
- Another Day
- Sanctuary
- WNWSFK / Can You Feel That
- Rearranged
- Along The Way
- Wake Up
- Sleep, What's That?
- In My Mind
- My Friend
Enjoy! (and thanks again, Shelly)
